Thia is a recent talk I gave for the Spiritual Care Association’s 2024 virtual conference.: First the Body, Then the Spirit: How Energy Healing Can Inform Spiritual Counseling. The talk calls upon my experiences as an energy healer in institutional settings as well as time spent in chaplaincy training. The odd thing is, I was only allowed to do one or the other, not together. In this talk, I present many stories of how the two can effortlessly combine and are actually necessary partners.. I believe the combination is the medicine of the future!

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